Why Another Blog?

I've decided to set up another blog, (my other one is called Writer's Musings), because there are some topics just too weighty for that blog.

So here it is. In this space I'll explore more serious issues in more detail. I do not expect visitors to agree with me in all cases.
In this forum feel free to take off the gloves, grab a handful of mud and fight for what you believe in.

Simple rules, rather like cage-fighting in the blogosphere:
No direct name calling. No excessive profanity. No whining when smacked in the face with mud.
Sling inuendo. Feel free to ask leading questions even if in a snide tone.

Wednesday, March 12, 2008

Leuren Moret Interview Part II..the Interview

Last night I posted the teaser. Today I'll put up the interview. You can also find both parts on Republic Broadcasting. I had thought to continue my earlier method of pointing out the gaping holes in Moret's facts and analysis, but this time I'll simply let the reader see the holes. They are that obvious. The first few comments are so utterly insane, any thoughts that this alleged expert is what she claims should be vanquished. To her credit, Kathy Sanborn has modified her opening and agreed to present counter-arguments in a later interview. I will, however, make a few italicized comments. Read on.

Leuren Moret: A Conversation with the DU Expert
By Kathy Sanborn
RepublicBroadcasting.org


This is Part Two of my conversation with Leuren Moret, international expert on depleted uranium. Moret is a frequent lecturer on depleted uranium at events worldwide. She appears in Beyond Treason, an eye-opening documentary revealing the hazards of DU for our troops and civilians around the globe. In Part Two of my interview, we discuss the real purpose behind DU, and how we, as citizens, can take action. In the next installment of my DU series, I will be exploring the other side of the depleted uranium issue. My goal, as an author and journalist, is to present the whole story, and let the reader come to his or her own conclusions.

Part Two

What’s the Real Purpose of DU?

Sanborn: If the “powers that be” know DU is so deadly, why (in your opinion) are they using it on our troops and civilian populations in Iraq and elsewhere?

Moret: The international bankers and the City of London are now using depleted uranium to depopulate the earth. The elites studied Thomas Malthus and embraced the theory that fewer people were needed in the world. In 1927, the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute was founded, and funded by the Rockefellers who brought eugenics to the US in the 1920s. The Kaiser Wilhelm Institute is where Mengele was trained, and it was associated with Nazi eugenics. In fact, much of today’s gene research is applied to eugenics.

And according to Dr. Henry Kissinger, as he stated in US National Security Memo 200: “Depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign policy towards the Third World.”

We should all be laughing hysterically now, if this woman were not so serious. I've done several searches through my electronic copy of NSSM 200 and have not found the quote Moret cites. In fact, she does not even correctly name the source: National Security Study Memorandum 200 (NSSM 200). It is possible I've missed it, but I doubt it.

Uranium in the Water

Moret: Uranium hexafluoride gas, a byproduct of the uranium enrichment process, is a potent neurotoxin. Edward Teller decided to dilute it by dumping it in our drinking water. Because scientists had discovered that the fluoride was escaping from the water and entering the atmosphere and interfering with radio communications and atmospheric processes, an early chemtrail program was designed to release metal particles in order to neutralize the fluoride.

Sanborn: So we’ve been drinking uranium (from atmospheric testing) and fluoride (from the uranium enrichment process) in our water for decades?

Moret: Yes. The Los Angeles water district has been measuring Uranium in drinking water in LA since 1998. In 2007, the uranium in the drinking water from wells on the east side of LA doubled in one year, due to heavy bombing with depleted uranium in Afghanistan and Iraq. Tell your readers to go to this web site and read (“None Dare Call It Genocide”) about fluoride and its introduction into our water: www.radioliberty.com/nlnov04.html.

Here’s a quote from Rena Vale from her book exposing the communist conspiracy:

In regions of the country where resistance was most apt to develop we saw to it that virus diseases struck, and when antibiotics threatened our program, we devised other means of vitiating the populace. FLUORIDATION OF DRINKING WATER WAS FOUND TO BE ABOUT THE MOST SUCCESSFUL. We directed our cadres in the medical and dental fields to beat the drums for 'protection' of children's diseased teeth, by adding fluorides to water - and saw to it that no one informed the public that fluorides affected brain and nerve cells to such a degree that initiative was reduced.

Does anyone remember the movie, "Dr. Strangelove", where General Jack Ripper poses this same theory?

Sanborn: Besides reducing brain function, what are some of the other effects of drinking fluoridated water?

Moret: Cancer, higher rates of miscarriage, reduced fertility, lower sperm count and mobility, and lower IQ (by ten points).

By the way, fluoride is the active ingredient in Paxil, Prozac, and other psychotropic drugs.

She forgot ice cream...childrens' ice cream! Quiet Jack...let her continue.

Worldwide Concern about DU

American scientists alarmed about the dangers of DU have likeminded colleagues in the international community, and their concern dates back to before the first Gulf War. Take a look at what a British DU expert has to say about the dangers of depleted uranium munitions.

Moret is putting forth another fellow "non-expert" as an expert witness. So that the readers know, Catherine Euler, Ph.D. is not a physicist. In fact, she has no scientific credentials at all. Her Ph.D. is in history and she specializes in women's issues. It is important to know that as you read Dr. Euler's comments.

Dr. Catherine Euler, Ph.D., of the Campaign Against Depleted Uranium in Manchester, England, (http://nucnews.net/2000/du/99du/990831dw.htm) reports:

The categorisation of DU as a low-level radioactive waste relates particularly to its effect outside the human body. Once ingested or, most particularly, inhaled, even relatively low-level radioactive particles can have a damaging effect on nearby cells. If adult men and adult women receive equal doses of radiation, cancers are 1.5 times as likely to occur in the women. Children are also especially at risk because their bones are still growing and their expected life span means they have a longer period in which latent cancers can develop (Bertell, 1999b). So, in addition to their damage to general human rights, DU aerosols can also have a particularly damaging effect on the human rights of women and children.

To those who dismiss DU as harmless, Dr. Euler has these words:

In fact, the toxicity of uranium is well-known, and it should not be needed to prove it again. "In Volume 2 of the Encyclopedia of Occupational Health, under uranium alloys and compounds, p. 2238, it reads: ‘Uranium poisoning is characterised by general health impairment. The element and its compounds produce changes in the kidneys, livers, lungs and cardiovascular, nervous and haemopoitic systems…Chronic poisoning results from prolonged exposure to low concentrations of insoluble compounds…it is reported that uranium exposure inhibits reproductive activity and affects uterine and extra-uterine development in experimental animals. Insoluble compounds tend to be retained in tissues and organs for long periods.’" (Bertell, 1999a, citing Encyclopedia of Occupational Health and Safety).

The key distinction between DU and natural uranium, according to Dr. Euler, is that DU is insoluble in its ceramic, aerosolized form:

Recent statements by the US Department of Defense have minimised the harm which depleted uranium weapons can cause, discussing only the external effect of the radiation, not its effect within the body, and suggesting that we all take in natural uranium in food and water every day. This is true, but we ingest natural uranium in such small quantities that the body is able to excrete again quickly without much harm done. Natural uranium is present in approximately 1 part per million parts of soil. It is present in a soluble form, not an insoluble ceramic form. This is a crucial difference.

Dr. Euler goes on to describe the connection between birth abnormalities and DU contamination areas in Iraq back in 1999:

We do know that DU has been found nine years after exposure in the urine and seminal fluid of several US, Canadian and UK Gulf War veterans, as well as in the urine of a few of the DU-exposed Iraqi civilians. The illnesses which the veterans report are similar to the illnesses reported among the southern Iraqi population which was also exposed to a widely dispersed DU aerosol. The US Department of Defence have published a map which shows the extent of the DU aerosol contamination in southern Iraq. At an international conference in London last month [August 1999], Iraqi doctors reported a 7-10 fold increase in the rate of birth abnormalities occurring in approximately the same regional area as is indicated on the DoD map.

What Can We Do?

Sanborn: In closing, what do you recommend that we, as citizens, do about DU?

Moret: We can protect ourselves by eating well to boost our immune systems. Eat deeply colored fruits and vegetables, and those with antioxidants, such as pomegranates and blueberries. Drink green tea, too. If you eat right, you can counteract the free radicals. Drink filtered water, using a reverse osmosis filter. Don’t smoke, because the tobacco leaves have depleted uranium on them, due to the fact that their leaves are fuzzy and sticky and tiny particles of depleted uranium are rained out onto the leaves as they are washed out of the atmosphere.

Here Moret betrays her true motive, which is strictly her anti-war bias.

Another thing we can do is to support counter recruiting in our schools and at recruiting stations. Young people need to know the health risks of depleted uranium prior to making the decision to join the military. All young men who have not had children should leave sperm deposited at sperm banks before they deploy to contaminated regions and even for training on gunnery ranges here in the US.

In addition, we can attempt to pass bills in our state legislatures to require the testing of soldiers.
Ok, finally something not entirely unreasonable.

Sanborn: Thank you for taking the time to speak with the Republic Broadcasting Network.

Moret: You’re welcome. Please remind your readers that they can find out more about DU by contacting me by phone or email. Readers can buy my educational DVDs that can be used to inform their family and friends about depleted uranium and its consequences.

Next time: The Other Side of DU

Leuren Moret has worked tirelessly for the cause of educating the world about DU and its devastating effects. She has a series of interviews, presentations, and films about radiation that can be purchased, and she is available for public speaking events. Ms. Moret has a series of 40 DVDs formatted for Public Access TV stations called "Global Nuclear Cover-up” that you may purchase by contacting her (see below). Buy several to educate your friends and family, and air them on your local public access TV stations. To support her work, please donate generously by contacting Ms. Moret by phone or email.

Call Leuren Moret: 510-845-3139

Email Leuren Moret: leurenmoret@yahoo.com

© 2008 Kathy Sanborn

http://www.kathysanborn.com/

4 comments:

Anonymous said...

I can't believe this! Is this for real? I mean, I've been hearing this stuff about DU and thought it sounded truthful. I don't trust the government much, so I was thinking that it was ok, but then I see this and I just don't know who to believe now!

WOW!

Doug said...

Damn it! Why didn't you tell me you were posting here? Good work, although I have to say that Rokke's credentials seem pretty impressive to me.

Looks like I'm going to have to take off my gloves and dust off my keyboard.

J. L. Krueger said...

Anonymous:

I suggest you read my other posts on this subject. The sad fact is, these people are making money fear-mongering. Most have no or limited scientific or medical credentials, yet they are touted as "experts".

These people rarely cite peer-reviewed scientific sources and when they do, they cite sources that are talking about other topics, but whose verbage fits their purpose.

A case in point is the quote attributed to Dr. Arun Mitra (who has impeccable credentials) in Part I of this interview where he was referring to downwind effects of a nuclear blast, not DU.

J. L. Krueger said...

Doug:

I created this while waiting for your input on your blog.

As an educator teaching in high school with a Ph.D., I'd say his credentials are impressive too. I just don't think they are that impressive for an officer or scientist.

We both have about as much scientific expertise as Rokke can claim.